blaznmonkeyboy 5pts wrangler is the only true off-road vehicle left for us rock crawlers. there are a lot of good 4X4s that are built to do most of what an average owner will do, but they are not running pritchett canyon moab with these. If you want a 4X4 wagon, truck, or van, they are out there, but leave the Wrangler alone. Long live the wrangler. Don't mess it up FIAT.