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First off, I have always wondered why the magazines test the truck loaded up with every single option. The average truck sold is not the LTZ 50k truck, but rather the LT model that costs 7k less. The majority of the LT trucks are priced at a price-point of 40k.
Second, I pulled my air dam off almost immediately on my 14, people who complain about the truck sitting so low, go park next to a Dodge or Ford 1500 and you will see that it's just the plastic air dam that makes the truck look so low.
I got to spend considerable time driving all the new 2014 trucks that were similarly equipped and came away equally impressed between both the Ram and Silverado. I can see how the Ram earned truck of the year due to being the first to put a fuel efficient Diesel in their truck, but I still think the extra costs between both the extra options required and fuel offset going with a gas engine. I came away thinking the Silverado was the clear winner after driving them all, just the fit and finish of the truck is truly head and shoulders above what they had with the GMT900 platforms. As for the Ford, it left me truly wondering how it is the most sold truck in the US...very disappointing. Hopefully the new 2015 F-150 is similar to the current offerings from GM. The Ford felt the most like a big truck, but not really in a good way. Steering felt slower to respond and the entire truck could be described as a feeling of driving a lifted truck. The Dodge rode well, but the Hemi was clearly the thirstiest of all the V8's, and felt weaker then the 5.3 from the Silverado. On the Silverado, skip the 4.3 V6, it's a powerful engine and awesome in the 2wd Reg Cab trucks, but you will get the same MPG with the 5.3. It's a shame the 6.2 is left only to the high trim levels.
@motox536 Everything you said I agree. The GM engines are unique as well---direct injection, VVT, cylinder deactivation, and highway mpg that equals or exceeds Ford's V6 turbo, which has had service bulletins already and cost more than their smaller V8. The Ram is heavier and I guess the 8 speed auto doesn't enhance mpg so much, but I would hold off getting the Silverado/Sierra until GM puts in a 8, 9, or 10 speed auto. Latest word is they are NOT going to go past the 6 speed for awhile. The 6.2 is nearly as good mpg as the 5.3, so the 8 speed auto might help it. I'd want that engine for just a mile or two difference from the 5.3. Plus GM and Ram have superior powertrain warranties from Ford or Toyota.
@motox536 Forgot to mention...on the EPA webpage, the GM 6.2 V8 (with over 400 hp) gets the same city/highway mpg as Ford's small 5.0 V8.
@motox536 Regarding the 6.2, one engineer I was reading about indicated two things about that engine. One, it is likely to be more durable than the others due to it putting out more power with less effort, and two, it will likely achieve better mpg than the EPA says because it will probably spend more time in 4 cylinder mode while cruising than the 5.3. I know nothing about engine dynamics, but found it interesting.
@lasvegascolonel Having owned a 05 with the 5.3, then 2011 with the 6.2 I can confidently say that the 14 is a far far superior truck in every aspect compared to my 2011, whereas my 11 left me a tad disappointed over my beloved and trusty 05.
I agree the 6.2 is a great engine, the power delivery on my 11 was great and the truck was real fun to drive, but the truck got horrendous MPG. Now on my 14, also a double cab 4x4 with 3.42s, the 5.3 feels nearly as athletic as the older 6.2 (imagine just a tad more peaky.) The fact that they have finally added fuel saving techniques to the 6.2 is icing on the cake. While my 5.3 does a great job at getting into 4 cyl mode to save on gas, it is really only useful on flat ground and with constant throttle; hit even the smallest hill or in a headwind, 4cyl is absent. Now with the 6.2, when you are just cruising and in everyday driving, the 4 cyl will be more useful and should really make use of the extra MPG. Hell, I can easily pull 25+ mpg out of my 14 while doing 65 on flat ground, but who drives like that? My lifetime average is 18.3 over 5k miles, gone down quite a bit now that it is cold, and I tend to feel all of those 355 horses often.
I sold these trucks and know nearly every in an out of one, and that's another good reason I was able to snatch a 14 up while justifying it. I have spent a lot of time in other trucks and although many call me bias, I don't feel that in any way. I just buy what I feel is the best, and currently, hands down I believe GM has it...
BTW, the 5.0 in the Ford is utterly disappointing, its no wonder the Ecoboost outsells em, but even the ecoboost is all boost and no Eco. Quick motor, no doubt, but I'll stick to a tried and true V8.
Chevy better than Dodge. Dodge better than Ford. Ford absolutely sucks!!!
Próximamente compraré una como esa
This truck has a lot going for it---good engines with unique features, good EPA mileage figures, stronger warranties than Ford or Toyota, but I would hold off getting this until GM puts in the 8 speed auto, or maybe the 9/10 speed they're supposedly working on with Ford. That would enhance mpg by 1-2 mpg, which is significant if you have the 6.2.
"It will be a cold day in hell" before I spend $50,000 on a pick-up truck with a push-rod engine, when I know there are better engine technologies available. I prefer OHC or DOHC engines, more power smaller displacement, high efficiency (4 valve per cylinder, a 2 valve engine will never out flow a 4 valve) and most importantly durability, no rods to bend or break when revving. DOHC engines are a natural for VVT, turbocharging, supercharging, and direct injection. I HAVE SEEN THE COMMERCIAL HOOVER DAM DIRECT INJECTIONS ENGINES; GM new engines are not the first pick-up trucks engines to use direct injection, Ford's Ecoboost v-6 uses, Direct Injection, VVT, DOHC, and turbochargers, to make huge amounts of torque (420ft/tq and hp (365) from a very small 3.5L v-6. GM new pushrod v-8 engines gets there vvt cam in block technology from GM's 3.9 v-6 (240 hp) which was produced for 2 years, and faded out by the newer 3.6 DOHC V-6, with direction injection which makes more power (topping out at 305hp) and has way better durability and fuel efficiency. So GM faded out all of is pushrod V-6's (3.8,3.3,3.4, and 3.9) for car use because they weren't competitive with the smaller more powerful, efficient, and long lasting 4 cyl and v-6 engines from the Asian automakers (Toyota, Nissan, and Honda). So what going to happen when Ford, Toyota, and Nissan apply direction injection to there complete line-up of already powerful DOHC engines, this is a easy design (engines heads) change for these automakers. GM PICK-UP TRUCKS WILL BE LET IN THE DUST, AND STUCK WITH LARGE DISPLACEMENT PUSHROD ENGINES
@Latony Woods You bring out a very good point, and that is a valid criticism of the GM V8s, and I believe Ram's too. Of course, people who buy Corvettes/Camaros don't care, but like you said, they definitely are technologically behind the OHC/DOHC engines. Even a small 4 cylinder import has a more "advanced" engine when you look at it that way. I know when I was test driving both the Mustang GT and the Camaro 2SS last year, Mustang's 5.0 V8, knowing it was not a push-rod, certainly made it more appealing to me. When these new GM models came out, some people said they should have concentrated on OHC engines as they are deemed superior. I think the long-life aspect of them is a clear positive over OHV, though many people will say OHV engines are just as long lasting. Of course, some people avoid the Ford Ecoboost because turbos tend to cause problems down the road. Thanks for your helpful comments, Latony.
Would take one if it didn't had all that chrome, I think gm is targeting Mexican buyers for sure
JS- GM has copied others for years. Nothing new. They claim they have "quiet cab" now as if its new technology. Ford came out with it 10 years ago. That's how far behind GM is in the technology race. Now GM is having problems with engine/transmission failures before 60k. Dodge copies Ford. Toyota built the Tundra and used the F150 as their model. Chevy copies everyone else's ideas. Seems to me if Ford sucks, according to non-Ford people, why are they the leader in sales for the last 30+years? Why are they copied by others? Ford is #1 and until they have their crown taken they will always be. Ford has Its problems from time to time but they always improve on them. GM and Dodge allways seem to be plagued with the same issues year after year decade after decade. Finally, GM took bailout money and hasnt paid it back and they are heading towards Bk again. Dont let their "profit" reports fool you. They build p.o.s. vehicles and they always will.
my is car
Diesel is better
Why did GM copy RAM on the cab portion of the truck (3/4 rear doors) and then instead of just continuing to call it an extended cab, they copied Toyota's "double cab" moniker. I'm a Chevy guy, but damn GM stop plagiarizing from other manufacturers.
That was in 2012 chris its 2013 now. A new age is dawning. An age of Chevrolet.
Manda para o BRASIL!
Gm junk !
Vem pro brazil top!!!
Geil Digga :D
Have your retirement taken after working 30 years for GM that keeps posting profits but claims they are broke and cant fulfill their obligations. Certainly you have worked in one of their plants and know how the company works first hand?
50k for that truck?...Its a nice truck ...but who can afford that?...no one I know. ..ps im a Chevy guy too.
Really like the looks of the new chevy in the market for a new one I test drove a 14 Z71, nice but 4 things keep me from buying it 1) for a 4wd the front sits so low it looks like it would scrape in my driveway 2) ride was very disappointing to me 3) no center console shifter and 4) over 6k higher than Ford or Dodge.
So, less fuel economy than ford. A cog short of ram....sounds a bit...average to me.
q tope por que uma dessas não vem pro brasil
Essa camioneta no campeonato de Rally vencia a competição
ford is still better chevrolets are junk in my opinion
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I like it, but why keep on putting on small 17" rims on a big truck?
Try Flint, Michigan
For 2012 the Ford F-150 outsold the Silverado by over 100k units.
No one wants government motors garbage!
Assembled in Mexico lol
I love how all these retards call it government motors but gm paid it all back and ford owes the government 11.5 billion.
You really shouldn't throw stones from a glass house. With a statement like that, your lack of intelligence is quite obvious.
And original ball joint on a 95 f150? I'm thinking your grandfather doesn't drive it much lol but in all seriousness my buddy is a supervisor of a landscaping company and they have a fleet of 2011 F250s and there was trouble with the front ends on all of them. They weren't too happy. So glad you and your grandfather have been lucky. My father and I have bought Chevy trucks and they never let us down. He's still got his 95 Silverado. It's seen better days but it's still kickin!
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Ok if I'm talking out my ass then i guess the people i know who owned a Ram and all those people reporting on the Ram online were talking out of their ass too. Silly me.